My Asylum Years

By John Greene

Back in 1979 I decided I’d had enough of the daily trudge of my office job for the past four years and considered it was maybe time to try something different. As I was quite enthusiastic about photography I thought that some sort of college photography course would be the thing.

So in the April at the carefree age of 22 I packed in my job with very loose plans to go to college in the October. In the meantime I had enough funds for my needs to get by along with some help from the DHSS, something I would not condone nowadays.

At that time a group of mates had just formed a rock band – Asylum.

The line-up were Alan Kewn, drums, Steve Jones, guitar, Alan Kilfoyle, bass and two guys new to me brothers Paul and Steve Rooney, vocals. Living in Liverpool they quickly managed to slot into the local music scene playing the usual pubs and clubs gigs.

the early days

As the only one of us who had a camera, an Olympus OM1 at the time, I became the groups unofficial unpaid photographer. Also as the owner of an Akai 4000DS reel to reel tape deck I was also roped in to record them at rehearsals.

I attended many of their gigs in an attempt to capture them in action. However, I very quickly learnt the pitfalls of low light indoor photography especially when combined with drinking pints of lager.

Star and Garter, Liverpool
Star and Garter, Liverpool
A rare colour shot, film was something like GAF 500

Ilford HP5 at box speed of 400ASA was my film of choice at that time. I also used Ilford XP when it was introduced a year or so later, but again still at 400ASA. Unfortunately I knew nothing about pushing film speed, it would have been useful to have that extra stop or two. I recall 1/30 second at f1.8 was a go to setting.

After establishing themselves on the Liverpool music scene their biggest performance to date happened on the 18 November 1980 when they played in a regional heat of Battle of the Bands at Liverpool’s Empire Theatre. I recall that one of the other bands were big favourites to win but Asylum pulled off a great performance and crowned winners.

I was there of course to capture the event, on HP5, with my newly acquired Canon AE1, 50mm and 200mm f4 lenses.

Battle of the Bands, Liverpool Empire, November 1980
Battle of the Bands, Liverpool Empire, November 1980

For the show all the spectators were in the stalls but I snuck into the upper circle and got some shots with the 200mm. After the winners announcement I managed to get myself onstage then backstage for the celebrations. I recall one of the band liberated a bottle of champagne from the judges stockpile. Sorry Noddy Holder I’m sure you would have enjoyed it.

Battle of the Bands, Liverpool Empire, November 1980
Battle of the Bands – The Winners

One of the perks of winning the contest was a track featured on a compilation album with 11 other regional winners. RCA were the record company and Asylum’s song “Nowhere to Run” was track six on side one.

RCA compilation album

The band also got to play the song on Granada Reports, a local TV programme that went out after the six o’clock ITV news. It was however for me quite a disappointing showing as the sound technician could have done better with the mix.

A few years ago I found that someone had uploaded the song to YouTube which was played to the accompaniment of revolving shots of the band. Those pictures were very familiar, some cheeky monkey had only nicked them from my Flickr stream, never sought permission or tagged any acknowledgement of the photographer. I’ve tried to find the song since without any success, there are far too many more prominent search hits of the same name.

The band continued with local live performances but these dropped off and they took an eight month hiatus. During this spell they made a number of demo tapes and targeted the record companies.

They had me do some studio shots, well the lead guitarists front room actually, where I used a couple of tungsten lights someone had gifted me. I bounced lighting off the ceiling or a white cloth background we had pinned up.

an early attempt at a studio shooting
the Wham look, pre Wham
a light hearted moment during a shoot

One of the shots was used in a magazine article about the band. The 26 November 1981 edition of “City Girl” no less. Guess what no payment and even worse no photo credit. I did however buy a copy, for my younger sister of course, so I had a clipping for the photo album we kept back then.

my first published photo

Circulating the demo tapes eventually paid off and a couple of record companies wanted to send their A&R people to see them so a gig at The Warehouse, Liverpool was arranged for the end of November 1981. It was one of Asylums best shows but a recording contract never materialised.

Paul and Steve, The Warehouse, Liverpool, November 1981
Terry, The Warehouse, Liverpool
Terry and Paul, The Warehouse, Liverpool
A rare shot of Alan who was always hidden behind his drum kit, The Warehouse, Liverpool
Steve, The Warehouse, Liverpool
Paul, The Warehouse, Liverpool
Steve, The Warehouse, Liverpool

The band eventually split up and went their separate ways. I kept in touch with Steve who had moved to London and managed to earn a living in the music industry. He continues to do some solo performances on an acoustic guitar in local clubs.

Steve Jones photographed by his daughter, Billie

Steve set up a home studio and recorded several albums which can be found and listened to for free on Bandcamp here

One particular song I enjoy is City of Dreams from his 2008 Inspiration album, the female singer gives a great performance. Hear it here.

Whilst editing the photos for this article, which at that time were home developed and printed, it made me wonder just what I could have done those 40 plus years ago with todays technology. I think that maybe I would have happily settled for just some 3200 ISO film.

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About The Author

By John Greene
Enthusiastic amateur since the mid 70's. Shooting both film and digital in colour and b+w with a strong preference for the latter. I also enjoy acquiring film cameras from yesteryear, playing with them for a year or so before moving on to another. Over the years I must have owned some 50 different cameras. My flickr photostream: https://flickr.com/photos/shaneprenton/
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Timothy Hancock on My Asylum Years

Comment posted: 03/09/2024

Great read and shots. You say missed opportunities if you had had today’s technology. Yes, but we all missed so many opportunities back then as well - I have lost all my FP4 negatives from the seventies and could have taken so many more.
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John Greene replied:

Comment posted: 03/09/2024

I two lost many shots on slide film from late 70s / daily 80s as a result of two house break ins.

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Geoff Chaplin on My Asylum Years

Comment posted: 03/09/2024

I only did one live pub band shoot about 25 years ago - of The Burns Brothers (still playing in East London) at the now non-existant Lord Rodney's Head in Whitechapel, colour shots with my M6. One shot was used by a Japanese television company on their marketing material and, like you, with no credit and no payment.

Some great shots there! What happened after your photo course?
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John Greene replied:

Comment posted: 03/09/2024

Geoff I think the idea of a photo course was only the trigger excuse for leaving my job. I did attend a few classes later in the year but by then personal circumstances had changed (a woman who I’m still with) and i took a different route and got a new job.

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rd on My Asylum Years

Comment posted: 03/09/2024

ace shots
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MR M P ZWICKY-ROSS on My Asylum Years

Comment posted: 03/09/2024

That's a great story. Thank you for sharing the photographs.
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Keith Drysdale on My Asylum Years

Comment posted: 03/09/2024

That's a perfect story of the many bands who got to the edge of greatness and the shots compliment the whole thing.
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Max Tiraquon on My Asylum Years

Comment posted: 03/09/2024

John, I rather like the star filter ones. What I did not tell you the other day is a picked up a star filter last year but never got round to using it, need to remedy that.
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John Greene replied:

Comment posted: 03/09/2024

Well next up you can move on to the graduated tobacco filter!

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Nik Stanbridge on My Asylum Years

Comment posted: 03/09/2024

I think it must have been quite a rite of passage for many of us aspiring photographers back int he 70s and 80s. I had high hopes of more of my photos being used/credited, and/or being ‘discovered’ leading on to greater photographic opportunities. Not the reality for most of us who no doubt like you have some fab gig shots. My best were at the Haçienda in Manchester in the mid 80s - especially of Psychic TVOne of which was published in a magazine. I did once get commissioned though to take some photos of some chip shops that were used in another magazine article
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John Greene replied:

Comment posted: 03/09/2024

Nik Chippy pics story could make for an article for 35mmc.

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Paul Brooks on My Asylum Years

Comment posted: 03/09/2024

Great story, priceless memories
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David Hill (are there two of us?) on My Asylum Years

Comment posted: 03/09/2024

Great story, great pics -- and as one who has shot more than a few Boston area bands through the 80's and 90's, some officially, more unofficially -- and is altogether too aware of the pitfalls of high contrast stage lighting -- I declare that's very fine work. Very expressive, great printing, well done. As for the cheeky buggers, what is it about bands that figure you're only there to serve up free pics?

I read somewhere very recently (quite possibly here on 35mmc?) about using infrared-filtered flash and IR-sensitive film for unobtrusive lighting on stage shoots. What an interesting concept!!

Anyhow, nice work ..
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Russ Rosener on My Asylum Years

Comment posted: 03/09/2024

Much the same on this side of the pond at that time. Music was really important in defining what tribe you were in. I can sing a bit but can't play a note. So photography became my means of expression and experimentation. Lots of friends who were musicians and we all knew the grimy little clubs to get onstage. A Pentax ME super was my tool and a f/1.7 50mm. I could only dream of affording a fast telephoto or a third party zoom lens!
Your photos here really show the evolution of a young guy into a pretty good photographer. It's amazing how hard we had to work just to capture something on film or audio tape back then. If you did any other music shots back then I'd really enjoy a follow up post.
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John Greene replied:

Comment posted: 03/09/2024

Russ thank you for your input, sadly this one band was all I did in this field but many memories from those two years.

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Art Meripol on My Asylum Years

Comment posted: 03/09/2024

Loved this story! Your work looks like it just got better and better as you stayed with the band. I started shooting concerts in the early 70s and continued until the end of the 80's. And that early work was wanting compared with the later shoots. But I built a lot of great memories and your story brought them back again.
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Gary Smith on My Asylum Years

Comment posted: 03/09/2024

Did you have a catch phrase to get them all to make that same face or did you just pass around a lemon?

Show us some recent shots!
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John Greene replied:

Comment posted: 03/09/2024

Gary I guess that was the baked in cool look. Re recent shots, other than those brief two years I didn't do any other band shots.

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Cdlinz on My Asylum Years

Comment posted: 03/09/2024

Man that’s awesome! I currently fill a similar role in funky little clubs here in Athens Ga. Music show photography is challenging enough with modern digital gear, I can’t imagine trying to get great shots like yours on film. I have no aspirations to make money doing this - I freely share my work, but I enjoy being a member of the'scene', it allows me access I wouldn’t otherwise have.
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John Greene replied:

Comment posted: 03/09/2024

Why try imagining getting film shots, grab a budget film camera and give it a go. A standard 50mm lens is what I used most of the time.

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Alexander Seidler on My Asylum Years

Comment posted: 04/09/2024

Great Photos, John !
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Bill Brown on My Asylum Years

Comment posted: 04/09/2024

John, It's always interesting to hear other peoples stories about how it all began. My time frame was almost the same as yours and it was the early 80's when I purchased and used a star filter for a short time. I quit my job at a professional photo lab in 1979, took a one month motorcycle tour across the U.S. and Canada that covered 8,000 miles and shot photographs all along the way (all K-64). When I returned home in late September I took a job working in the West Texas cotton harvest as a laborer. My Canon ftb was at my side, in the pickup or in the tractor and I shot my first personal documentary project.

My next job was at an aerial photography studio and while I was there I met a man who owned a postcard company. He hired me to photograph certain scenes around Dallas and then paid me $25 for any slide he used( I got photo credit). After about a 16 month time at the aerial photography studio I quit and went freelance. The year was 1982 and I'm still a freelance artist in the Dallas area.

Your photos take me back to those early days when film was all there was and so you got the shot somehow. That time was a great teacher for anyone wanting to expand their knowledge. Learning how to get the shot regardless of the circumstances has served me well. You got some great shots and your post shows once again that great work could be produced even though everyone knows real photography didn't begin till the creation of digital capture. Much like retouching photos never existed until PS was created.

Great story! Great photos!
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John Greene replied:

Comment posted: 04/09/2024

Bill Thanks for adding your memories to the piece. Nice to hear that you are still experiencing the freelance challenge.

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