Just before christmas an opportunity came up that I couldn’t refuse.
A camera that I have been researching since I began in film photography came up for sale in the Facebook film photography marketplace. The Mamiya C330 (in this case, designated the f variation). It looked to be in fantastic condition, complete with protective briefcase, extra lens, lens hood, prism viewfinder and paramender. All for much cheaper than I’d seen equivalents being sold for on ebay.
Part of me felt it was too good to be true, part of me battled with my own decision earlier that year to not buy any more cameras for the time being, but ultimately things really fell into place. I won’t take you through all the “signs” which told me to go for it but here was the clincher – the seller had said they didn’t want to post and would rather it was collected, I don’t live anywhere near the chap but my sister lives an hour away and this lovely gentleman agreed to a socially distanced drop off, driving the 2 hour round trip to my sisters place AND she was due to come back our way the next day for Christmas, meaning I could check it all over and make sure it was all legit.
Making such a purchase is not a light decision in this household, we do not have money coming out of our ears but this was a special item. This was one of my “Bucket List cameras”. I knew that people would question why, it’s not a Leica or a Hasselblad or any other of the classically desired cameras, and frankly I struggle to explain it myself. I just really wanted a Mamiya C330.
“Bucket List Cameras”
As I shot the first 2 rolls through the camera I pondered the idea of Bucket List cameras and what others would consider theirs. What gets people dreaming of cameras? Is it the format? The brand? The rarity? Or is it something else?
Wondering about this, I reached out to a few people who I thought would have an interesting perspective; people who have shot a wide variety of cameras, people who make their living out of photography. I received a range of answers, but what was interesting was that none of them really had a specific camera in mind, maybe an idea of one that would fit their vision but it was really more about the experience than the camera. A surprise to me when surrounded by all the technical reviews out there!
A couple of those I asked were more well-known names within the film community, people who have shot a wide variety of cameras. I’m sharing their input with you here, as I think there’s an interesting message that might usually get lost in the subject of GAS.
Mike Eckman
Mike has been reviewing cameras for 6 years and has shot well over 300 cameras. He’s even shot cameras that that require specially hand cut film like the KMZ Ajax and historically significant cameras like the Leica Model A.
When I spoke with Mike about what he would consider his bucket list camera he told me that having shot so many different cameras, of different shapes, sizes, features and uses, that it was hard for him to fall in love with or have any desire for one specific model.
What Mike feels he needs, or misses, is a regular go to camera. A camera that is adaptable enough to suit any photographic need he throws at it. Rather than say he needs a single Bucket List camera, he thinks he needs a Bucket List system. He loves the Nikon cameras and owns many of them, but is lacking a camera like the Nikon F6, a camera that recently made headlines as it was officially discontinued. Eventually he would like to add a Nikon F6 to his collection, along with a selection of capable lenses such as a Nikon Fisheye 21mm f/4, a fast 50mm prime, maybe the 85mm f/1.8 and a monster f2.8 telephoto.
It’s an ambitious bucket list for sure but maybe when that day comes he will feel he has the perfect system and can calm down the rate at which he shoots different cameras.
Hamish Gill
Hamish (the founder of this website) has shared a few images with me over the time I have been writing for the site which showcase his impressive collection of cameras so I thought his opinion on Bucket List cameras would be an interesting one.
Many of the readers of this article may recall that this website was founded on a love of point and shoot film cameras, it has evolved and expanded and now he has tried a vast array of cameras, lenses and systems. Our conversation was certainly food for thought and in some ways surprisingly different to Mike’s view despite being in a relatively similar position.
Hamish felt that there is no one camera but that in each moment there is a right camera for him. He said this could be dictated by the subject or the lighting something else external, but as much as that it’s just about how he is feeling on that day or, week or even just in that minute he goes to the cabinet.
Sometimes he feels an urge to shoot something simple and quick like the point and shoots, and sometimes he craves images that come from a particular lens.
He also said that he has tried so many cameras now that he isn’t really phased by and brand or have any desire for any particular camera. He has found himself to be a lot less fussy than he used to be too. So for example, if he wants to shoot an autofocus SLR, he feels he could probably be just as happy with an 80s Pentax (above) as he would be something like a Nikon F100. As long as the lens is fit for purpose, he’s found within the sort of things he shoots with film, he doesn’t “need” anything too fancy.
With all that said, he also suggested that there might be a day he sells it all and just commits to one or a couple of cameras he is entirely familiar and happy with, but that’s unlikely to happen whilst he is still running 35mmc.
Kit Young
When I asked Kit Young, a darkroom printer extraordinaire, whether he had a Bucket List camera he told me that he isn’t really fussed about gear – that it’s a means to an end, he’s interested in the printing. In general I would agree with this, for me it’s not really about the gear in terms of striving for sharper lenses or this or that model of Leica, it’s about the experience of shooting. Kit is perfectly happy with the cameras that he currently uses, I’ve seen his work on both 35mm and 8×10 and frankly it doesn’t matter what the camera was, they’re superb.
As our conversation progressed, he let me know that rather than a specific camera he was looking to have another go at 6×6 medium format images. He’d had a bad experience with a Mamiya C330 (we clearly have different tastes) but he wanted to try the format again.
I thought this was a perfect way to round out a conversation on Bucket List cameras – from a complete amateur (me) to those who have tried a multitude of cameras to Kit, completely uninterested in the brand or model but always focused on the resulting image.
To end
I knew it would be interesting to talk to those with so much more experience than me but it’s been more thought-provoking than I had first believed. Why is it that so many film photographers go down the route of collecting and trying out different cameras (I’ll hold my hands up and say that was the route I was heading down a couple of years ago) but that eventually so many end up feeling philosophical about it all. Most of us will end up caring more about the experience, the familiarity and the loyalty of a well-known and trusty camera.
I’ve only shot 2 rolls through the Mamiya but it is a glorious experience. The bright viewfinder, the focus wheels, the intuitive placement of the shutter, the ease of loading film. I probably won’t write a full review of it because it’s such a well-documented camera that I really don’t need to add my opinion. I hope that it will be with me for many years to come.
If you’d like to see some of the photos from this camera you can do so on Instagram. If you’d like to see more of my writing you can find me website here or have a look at my other articles on 35mmc.
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Terry B on Exploring and Discussing the Idea of the “Bucket List Camera” – By Holly Gilman
Comment posted: 06/05/2021
As I understand it, a bucket list has many wishes on it, so is it cheating if I mention three cameras that were on mine? Here goes.
Numbers 1 = were the first ever cameras I really lusted after, even before I took up photography seriously as a hobby in 1960. In the late 1950's I attended the local Boys' Club, a recreational facility of a type long gone. Whilst there I met a photographer who had gear that I'd never heard of and was seriously expensive to a 14/15 year old: Leica and Bolex. The Leica was an M3 and the Bolex an H16 reflex. Although I doubt that bucket list was a term used back then, these two cameras were it! But it was not until 1980 or so before I had them both. (Remember, this was in the days before the internet, when camera buying was mostly via what your local dealers had in store.)
My introduction to Contax rangefinders came in the mid-1970's with a IIa. This lead to my increasing knowledge about Contax rangefinders in general, and one in particular stood out as being a must have - the historically important model 1. But I never ever saw one in the flesh, and it was only about 4 years ago that I found a suitable one on the internet. By suitable I mean high score cosmetically and fully working, and given for how long I'd waited, I was prepared to push the boat out a little to get the right one. Looking back, around 40 years seems an awful long time to complete a small collection of 5 Contax rangefinder models!
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davesurrey on Exploring and Discussing the Idea of the “Bucket List Camera” – By Holly Gilman
Comment posted: 06/05/2021
Nostalgia: these include my first ever camera 63 years ago (a Brownie 127) and the OM1, OM2 plus the little Pentax Auto 110 I used when I travelled around a lot of the World.
Curiosity: after years of SLRs I was curious as to how different shooting other "formats" would be so bought a Bronica ETRSi, a YashicaMat TLR and several rangefinders.
History: I am fascinated how good results can be achieved from old cameras and especially old MF folders. My oldest folder is over 100 years old and still working.
Perversity: I love taking an old, cheap, point and shoot to see just how good results I can get out of it, proving you don’t always “need” a Leica, Hassy…..
Fun: let’s never forget that.
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Sacha Cloutier on Exploring and Discussing the Idea of the “Bucket List Camera” – By Holly Gilman
Comment posted: 06/05/2021
Ah, bucket lists, the bane of existence for my wallet. Luckily I have a patient wife. I'm not gonna lie, I've had a bucket list ever since I returned to film. I would say that it is a declining venture for me, but it has definitely been prevalent over the last 12 months. I have owned about 150 cameras during that time. I've sold some to fund others and I plan on continuing to shave off some volume as I settle my kit. Lots of my choices have been because of internet lore (YouTube, 35mmc, etc). I have gotten a few important takeaways from this adventure.
The first thing I learned is "be careful what you wish for". It is a lesson that I learned when I bought a Nikon F3HP. It is difficult to find a bad review of it anywhere. The results from that Nikon glass were gorgeous to my eye. The camera itself though, I could just not find myself liking it. It never fit to my hand or my style. It was sad because I had paid a lot to get it from a shop. I had traded in my Nikon L35AF (which I regret and miss to this day) and a couple more cameras and cash to get it. It was an overpay and it just never worked out. I ended up trading it in for some lenses and some film.
Now, as mentioned before, hype has played a part in my choices. I do own a MJUII, even though I saw plenty of arguments here about there being better alternatives. I honestly really like it as my daily carry. I put it in a pocket and it's there should I need it. I have loved the results. I just bought a Pentax 6x7 (the oldest model) because I wanted 6x7. I was open to the RB67 or the Bronica GS-1 but it happened that that was the camera available to me at the time and made the jump.
I think that my bucket list has slowly moved towards just having a camera for all my needs, which I believe that I have achieved so far. I have my pick for 35mm SLR (x700 or 139q, 35mm rangefinder (QL19 GIII), 35mm daily carry (MJUII or FED50), 645 (Bronica ETR), 6x6 (MAT-124 G or Kiev 6c), 6x7 (Pentax), and instant (SX-70).
Was it worth it to try over a hundred cameras? Not always. Did it allow me to build a solid kit to fit my daily whim or a project? Absolutely! Will I buy more cameras? Probably, but now it is really down to can't pass opportunities. That and projects like the one that I am planning for this site where I will review the Canon "Puke Green" T SLR line. I'm just waiting for T90 to arrive for the series to begin!
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Bud Sisti on Exploring and Discussing the Idea of the “Bucket List Camera” – By Holly Gilman
Comment posted: 06/05/2021
The dream camera does change over time. For the past 20 years, Leicas, and especially my M3, were my dream cameras. But for a while, I've felt that the most important challenge in my work is to describe, fully and with the greatest precision and respect possible, the people I'm photographing. The best 35mm equipment is no match for medium format, in that respect. The M3, the least versatile but loveliest of the Leicas, got sold to finance a pair of Fuji GW690II "Texas Leicas". Not dream cameras, by any of my standards; they're ugly, plastic-covered lumps. But they are unique and really the only thing that will do the job I need done.
Perhaps the point I'm making is that a "dream camera" is no longer very motivating. I guess I have "dream images" that I want to make real, and just want whatever camera will best do that job.
Enjoy your Mamiya! I hope it makes your dream images a reality.
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John on Exploring and Discussing the Idea of the “Bucket List Camera” – By Holly Gilman
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They are old friends who are always available for a visual adventure.
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Matthias Steck on Exploring and Discussing the Idea of the “Bucket List Camera” – By Holly Gilman
Comment posted: 07/05/2021
What's really on my bucket list for photography, is to find more time for it and get a better photographer. A much better photographer.
The only gear I really want to explore is 6x6, perhaps with a Bronica SQ or - of course - a Hasselblad (but I'll never have the money for a Hasselblad) or even with a TLR.
I really love my Sony. When I first shot it, it was like coming home. I didn't get familiar with my previous digital cameras, but with the A7II I attached my manual lenses and shot it like the Minolta X-700 that was in my family since I was a little boy (my parents passed it to me in 2018). I hope the Sony will last some more years, my SLR certainly will.
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NigelH on Exploring and Discussing the Idea of the “Bucket List Camera” – By Holly Gilman
Comment posted: 08/05/2021
I (like you) did hanker after a C330 and have owned one for a year or two now; it desperately needs a service and it's a hella bulky thing to carry around so I haven't used it for a while but I do very much enjoy shooting with it.
One day a year or so ago I took it down town to the middle of LA to shoot some pictures while walking with my wife; almost everywhere we went someone would say "nice camera!" or something similar. My wife jokingly became annoyed at this in that they noticed my camera more than her. This culminated at the end of the walk where while crossing a road, someone in a cafe 100 yards away suddenly shouted at us "C330??!!" To which I waved my thumb and my wife just shook her head :D
I hope you enjoy yours :)
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Michael Gayler on Exploring and Discussing the Idea of the “Bucket List Camera” – By Holly Gilman
Comment posted: 10/05/2021
I can throw a Pentax Espio (for example) in my jacket pocket and it'll be there for me, producing perfectly acceptable photographic memories. These cameras are (still) reliable, with the batteries still available. I don't need to overly worry about dropping it, losing it, and it's not a theft magnet - there'll always be another one on eBay tomorrow.
Maybe that's why I take snapshots rather than photographs!
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Tom Aspin on Exploring and Discussing the Idea of the “Bucket List Camera” – By Holly Gilman
Comment posted: 10/05/2021
As others have alluded to, the bucket list changes over time, for quite a wide range of reasons.
At 13, when I first got into photography, I wanted an SLR, any SLR because I wanted to play around with different lenses, and to have a camera better than my mates Olympus Trip.
As a student it was a Nikon F, to get better lenses and to have something a bit cooler than a Praktica.
When I wanted to try medium format, I got a Rolleicord VB ( dirt cheap at the time)
I had always wanted a Leica, and I saved up and bought a iiif.
In some ways I was very fortunate as my late father was a serious camera collector and repairer, so I got the opportunity to try lots of stuff out
first. Not all of the purchases worked out - I struggled with the dark viewfinder on the Rollei , and the tiny viewfinder/rangefinder on the Leica is a real pain. I probably have only put a couple of films through each, but I don't feel inclined to part with them, as they are a part of my photographic journey, and a reminder of the fact that the grass is not always greener..
I picked the Nikon up again recently, and you know, I think suits me just fine.
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Steve on Exploring and Discussing the Idea of the “Bucket List Camera” – By Holly Gilman
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Bill Canon on Exploring and Discussing the Idea of the “Bucket List Camera” – By Holly Gilman
Comment posted: 11/05/2021
What do I use daily? Lol, the tiny Pentax MX or the Canon M6 II mirrorless. These are just so handy.
I love to take and process pictures, I like everyones images, there are no right or wrong approaches to photography.
Ansel Adams made a statement something like this..."every person must follow his or her own beacon to determine what is right in there own eyes"
JayDann Walker in Melbourne on Exploring and Discussing the Idea of the “Bucket List Camera” – By Holly Gilman
Comment posted: 03/09/2021
A few examples...
My Nikkormats. I've owned FTNs, ELs and now have two FT2s. They are truly my favorite go-tos. Oddly, most (admittedly digital) photogaphers hate them. "The poor man's Nikon" as they are known. One actually asked, "are you so poor to not being able to afford a real Nikon?"
The Contax G1. When these came out, almost everyone who has reviewed them had something negative to say about them. That they were obsolete when they came out (mid 1990s), there were too few lenses in the G series, as an all-electronics camera they would be prone to sudden death syndrome, and so on. None of which has ever happened in my case, except in 2006 I had one of my (I own four) G1s suddenly stop auto-rewinding film an I had to manually activate the winder by pushing down a tiny button with a toothpick (which the G1 manual expressedly forbade doing, but it never did cause any damage). After about 18 months I turned on this G1 one day and boom!! the auto-wind was working again. It has done so since.
Any 6x6 German folding camera. I have two, a 1950 Zeiss Nettar with an albada finder and a 1953 Voigtlander Perkeo I with a superb Color Skopar lens. Primitive even by the standards of their day but the results are phenomenal. Look at a well exposed 6x6 Fujichrome or Ektachrome slide and your life will never be the same. For some reason, these cameras seem to upset young yuppies (who mostly use Sony digital cameras nowadays, I've noticed) or anyone with a Leica of any sort. Scornful looks or even offhand remarks.
But then I must look at the other side and I have to say 90 out of every 100 photographers are supportive of we elderly duffers using these ancient cameras. Or surely it isn't me...
I truly did enjoy this most excellent and well thought out article. It opened my eyes to some new ideas and in this day and age of brand-name camera sameness, that''s a good thing.