A Win/Lose Tale of Making a 120 to 16mm film slitter.

By Tony Warren

This has turned out, somewhat abruptly, to be the final chapter in my investigation into 110 and reusing the cartridges. Unfortunately, it also led to the demise of my original Minolta 460 Tx camera and a change of direction for my foray into sub-miniature photography.

Having discovered how to accommodate 16mm stock for processing and how to retain for re-use intact cartridges from commercial films I have shot, I also found that the camera is able to produce a larger negative than the proscribed proportions dictated by commercial 110 format films, requiring 16mm film without the preprinted frames. Unperforated film will also need the camera to be modified to allow the shutter to release.

I decided to try to make a device to slit 120 size film to provide strips 16mm wide for use in the rescued cartridges.

So how best to do this?

Researching the web turned up several possibilities, both ready made and DIY. One solution was similar to what I had in mind for the 120 Kodak 66 II body I have but was designed to produce a 127 width from 120. The camera body I have had been badly damaged at some point, the front section completely beyond repair, and which I had used initially for pinhole work but was now available for further re-purposing.

Camera body as used when in pinhole form.
Camera body as used when in pinhole form.

My main objective was to produce a slitter that could be operated in the light, utilising the winding mechanism of the old camera to avoid handling the film itself. A ready made or simpler version would save a lot of time if you want to go that way when eBay and subclub web sites among others are worth a look. Alternatively, a web search will reveal various DIY versions including a very ingenious one on the Lomography site that simply uses a matchbox and a couple of scalpel blades to slit a 35mm film down to 16mm.

My version.

First effort using four blades sandwiched between wooden blocks.
First effort using four blades sandwiched between wooden blocks.

The basic materials I used were:

Showing the benefit of rollers to prevent the film from sagging onto the end of the blade.
Showing the benefit of rollers to prevent the film from sagging onto the end of the blade.
  • An old 120 folder body (one with rollers at each end of the image opening would be better than mine to ensure the film is kept as flat as possible as it passes over the blades – see below).
  • Wood for the cutting block insert.
The result of the film catching on the end of the blade and then applying too much force.
The result of the film catching on the end of the blade and then applying too much force.
  • Sharp blades such as craft knife or scalpel blades. (Snap-off blades can be used but only when there is no risk of the film snagging, hence the comment about rollers above. If the camera body doesn’t have rollers to ensure the film stays flat, the film can sag and snag onto the lower edge of the blade. This locks up the transport and prevents further advance. More pressure simply tears the paper.)
  • Sharp tools, various nuts, bolts and screws, felt, tape and adhesives.

I initially adopted the “sandwich” approach with four snap-off blades to produce three 16mm strips but subsequently found that an alternative “two block” version with three scalpel blades blades set in angled saw cuts works better with the camera body I had available. The wastage was similar but in one strip rather than two.

This approach has the advantage of making angling and fitting of the blades less tricky. I have included a sketch I worked up for my camera body for the second version. It could be adapted to other bodies.

It is a good idea to house the ends of the blades in slots in the pressure plate or, as shown in the feature image, replacing it with thin ply.

Sketch of design for the final two block version.
Sketch of design for the final two block version.

My razor saw produces a width of cut that matches the scalpel blade very closely and holds it in place without adhesive. This does need the cut to be very accurate, however, so I opened it out with a hacksaw and fixed the blade with a rapid action epoxy adhesive. This allows fine adjustment as the adhesive sets but makes replacing the blades more difficult.

The hardest part is to get the rather small and fiddly component parts the correct size and fit. A lot of sanding is involved or a friendly cabinet maker might help out here to produce the most accurate components. 3-D printing is another option I imagine if that is available to you. One of the commercial versions I found uses this method and fits into a standard 120 8-on camera.

Slitting the film.

After several failures I eventually produced three lengths of useable FP4+ from a roll of 120.

I would recommend winding slowly and smoothly, stopping winding just before the end of the backing paper is reached. Taping the end of the backing intact retains some control when it comes to separating the lengths of film in the dark.

The blades do tend to pick up traces of the adhesive from the tape fixing the film to the backing so it is a good idea to clean them off after each film with solvent to avoid problems subsequently.

Rolled up strips and Rollei film container.
Rolled up strips and Rollei film container.

After separating the slit lengths in the dark, roll them quite tightly and tape them securely before storing them in a light-tight container prior to loading the cartridges. Rollei’s 120 film comes in a suitable example.

The death knell.

Cartridge loaded and reday to be taped together.
Cartridge loaded and ready to be taped together.

This is where things started to go seriously awry so I will keep it brief.

I trimmed a strip to length before loading it into the cartridge and taped everything together.

The modification made to the arm that senses the perforations freeing up the shutter and controlling spacing.
The modification made to the arm that senses the perforations freeing up the shutter and controlling spacing.

This was preceded by what I had had decided was necessary to allow the camera shutter to fire without the perforations. The small arm that locates in the perforation has to be trimmed so that the film doesn’t depress it preventing the shutter from working. This was done with a pair of nail clippers, the metal being very thin.

Unfortunately, because of my ineptitude or for whatever other reason, the film just refused to transport and locked up the wind completely, rendering the camera totally kaput. The only good side to this is that I had used my original Minolta 460 Tx which is lacking working battery power leaving a later, fully functioning acquisition intact to continue using with commercial film.

So, finally…

This then brought to an end my fascinating investigation of re-using cartridges in the 110 format.

I will continue with sub-miniature photography because I now have a workable slitter to provide approx. 80cm lengths of unperforated 16mm film, each one at the price of little more than a cup of coffee. Since submitting this article I have also bought a Minolta 16 MG on the local auction site so that I can continue exploring sub-miniature, both with my remaining 110 Minolta and the ‘new’ 16mm camera I can now explore.

A win/loose/win result in the end.

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By Tony Warren
In my 60 or so years of serious involvement in photography I have seen the demise of the viewfinder, the rise of the SLR and the eclipse of them all with the meteoric development of the digital camera. Through it all, however, and above all else, the image is what it is all about so I now use film alongside digital. Whatever is the most appropriate or practical. My contributions will hopefully be useful for anyone interested in using film and also how a died-in-the-wool antique like me is continuing his life-long addiction in the digital age, using both platforms. The major benefit of an extended retirement is that I can spend most of my time nowadays with photography and writing about it.
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Bob Janes on A Win/Lose Tale of Making a 120 to 16mm film slitter.

Comment posted: 13/10/2023

My sympathies - I found the film slitting thing a nightmare and gave up long before you did. People do manage it, and I'm in admiration of them for it...
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Myles on A Win/Lose Tale of Making a 120 to 16mm film slitter.

Comment posted: 13/10/2023

Well done on the film slitter. I've kind of thought about getting into 110 cameras but Minolta 16 cameras are so much easier for film re-loads. No backing paper or registration holes required! Minolta 16 cameras are cheap to buy and film cartridges although not exactly abundant can be found - there are even 3d printed versions commercially available. I've also bought Min 16s containing the cartridges either knowingly or they were just in the camera. The cartridges are a lot easier to re-use than 110 too.

Can you tell I'm a big fan of Minolta 16s! Some of the cameras are lovely, the 16 II being one.

I use a 35mm film slitter for my 16mm (and Minox) film requirements from Camerahack - v good too. They do a 120 version but haven't tried that. You won't need a film strip longer than 45cm for your MG or any other Minolta 16.

Hopefully we'll get to a "5 Frames..." from your MG at some point.
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Tony Warren replied:

Comment posted: 13/10/2023

Thanks Myles. I can see from my MG why you are such a fan. It is a beautiful piece of engineering. The lack of adjustable focus other than the close up lens is a drawback - the QT would be the ideal if they weren't so scarce and expensive. Just loaded some Rollei Superpan 200 into my MG from my first serious effort on the slitter. This is a very fine grained film and should work well. I am using a 3D printed cassette bought off eBay which is very well made and fits perfectly. I have managed to fit light traps too so loading is a lot easier into the bargain. An original cassette came with the camera but scratched the test FP4 I ran through it. May try to replace the seals on it but they are a much tighter fit than the modern one. If you use minox as well as 16mm, slit 120 will give you both widths if you specify it when ordering one of the slitters I understand, possibly Camerahack.

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Myles on A Win/Lose Tale of Making a 120 to 16mm film slitter.

Comment posted: 14/10/2023

That sounds like a good film to try Tony. I have a QT (and a 16 II, EE, P and PS). In the UK a QT can be had realtively cheaply - mine was £10. A 3v lithium battery padded out with coins makes the light meter work.

The 3d printed cartridges are great (I assisted a eBay UK seller by trying out his prototypes). I load and unload the feltless cartridges into and out of the camera in my darkroom. So feltless is fine for me.
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Tony Warren replied:

Comment posted: 14/10/2023

Just loaded some Superpan for the MG so we shall see how it fares. I fitted light traps mainly to make loading the cartridge with film a little easier but if I get scratching they will come out again. My sole original cassette gave me scratches first time out but the felt is very worn. I haven't seen a QT for sale down here in New Zealand where postage costs and our equivalent of VAT put on a big surcharge unfortunately if I were to buy one off eBay. I will keep an eye out though.

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Myles D on A Win/Lose Tale of Making a 120 to 16mm film slitter.

Comment posted: 14/10/2023

That sounds like a good film to try Tony. I have a QT (and a 16 II, EE, P and PS). In the UK a QT can be had realtively cheaply - mine was £10. A 3v lithium battery padded out with coins makes the light meter work.

The 3d printed cartridges are great (I assisted a eBay UK seller by trying out his prototypes). I load and unload the feltless cartridges into and out of the camera in my darkroom. So feltless is fine for me.
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Julian Tanase on A Win/Lose Tale of Making a 120 to 16mm film slitter.

Comment posted: 14/10/2023

This is a very interesting piece, Tony, well written and documented, and I really like it. As a Minox 8x11 camera user of some 25 yrs now, I do appreciate the delicacy of your task. Of course, sometimes things work out sometimes they do not. Important thing is to keep going, and keep trying.

Film cutter/slitters are strange animals; I have started to cut my own films at some point during the early 90s and believe you me, I have had really interesting experiences. I am cutting both subminiatural format, 9.2mm and 16mm also. The cutters I use are those on the market (some of them extinct), but I usually employ the use of the old Zipslit or the models made by my friend, Jimmy LI. I have also reviewed some of these machines for the 8x11 community out there: https://juliantanase.com/category/accessories/minox-film-cutters/

That is why your design looks very close to a good working cutter, and as said, really like it. I do appreciate the effort put into it, because I know how easy things can go south when working with such delicate and minute contraptions. Kudos!
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Tony Warren replied:

Comment posted: 14/10/2023

Thank you Julian. I am pleased to say that the post mortem on the 110 produced some encouraging information, something I hadn't spotted previously, and I have hopefully revived the little beast. Test film ready to load. I find slitting 120 is very economic for my needs using my device. I believe one of the commercial ones can be specified to produce several widths from the one film which could be useful if you need a range. Working with film is so rewarding and my recent delving into sub-miniature is proving engrossing so I am more than happy to keep digging away, especially when things actually work out. Thanks again for your comments.

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Marco Andrés on A Win/Lose Tale of Making a 120 to 16mm film slitter.

Comment posted: 11/11/2023

Myles, Impressive, ingenious way to cut 120 film for 110 cameras. Trimming the small arm is genius

As Tony Warren noted, Camerhack.it offers a variety of tools to accessories to cut 120 film to a variety of film formats: 127, 110 and N.00. The tools fit in a light-tight box that holds 120 film
- Knob for turning the takeup
- Film cutters
- Rulers to prepare backing paper
- Film feeders to insert film into a 120 spool for takeup spool for cut film
They also offer a 3d printed Fakmatic adapter to use 35mm film in a 126 camera, which I’ve used. Unlike 120 film, 35mm has too many perforations, requiring workarounds to “unsee” most of them.
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Tony Warren replied:

Comment posted: 11/11/2023

Thanks Marco. Useful and detailed information on ready made devices.

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