I often get accused of writing click bait titles. I’m really not sure what people think the purpose of an article title is if it’s not designed to get people to read it, but nonetheless, I must admit, the title of this article is designed entirely as bait.
It’s designed to bait the sort of people who would comment on another article about a Leica M6 on this very website with the words “If you guys can’t [sic] know that a Spotmatic f with a super takumar lens is better than any Leica , you don’t know shit !”
You see, I want to address this nonsense to anyone who thinks like that head on. It’s not that I want to prove that a Leica is better than Pentax Spotmatic – I wouldn’t dream of starting such a pointless argument. Quite the opposite in fact, I actually want to make a point that’s somewhat the opposite to my own baity title. I want to make the point that Frank’s Spotmatic F is indeed better than a Leica M6. To him.
A useless comment
Let me just start by pointing out that the sort of commentary that Frank shared on Nigel’s post is completely redundant. That is to say, it holds no value at all. He doesn’t qualify his statement, and of course it’s the sort of comment that’s entirely based on an opinion.
But, beyond it’s absolute redundancy – and the fact that it’s more than a little rude to assume that Nigel and all the other commentators on that post “don’t know shit” – it’s also almost-blind myopic. In short, it’s a useless comment – well, at least apart from the fact that it’s given me something to rant and rave about!
It’s all subjective
The fact is, when it comes to cameras and their use, everything beyond basic stats is entirely subjective. And anything that’s subjective is obviously completely personal to the individual. Our personal experiences with cameras, from the moment we pick up our first, to the last time we pressed a shutter button help define what makes the right camera for us as individual photographers.
In fact, our choice of camera, and the narrative we create for ourselves around that choice, isn’t even exclusively defined by specifically photographic experiences. As human beings we naturally create our own narratives as we meander through life. We form beliefs and ideas about everything we interact with based on every other experience we have in life. As such, what makes a camera the right camera for an individual photographer can just as easily be defined by personal attitudes toward material objects, financial situation or physical ability, as much is it can creative goals or shooting styles etc.
One man’s trash…
The cliche “one man’s trash is another man’s treasure” holds a lot of truth, and is especially relevant in the world of photography. To some people a basic point & shoot film camera is all they need, in fact it might even be all they want, or even all they can afford. But to others, such a camera might fall short for technical reasons, or even just not give them the satisfaction they want from their shooting. Some might find the use of a point & shoot brings satisfaction through them being able to create their art with something so simple that cost so little, whilst others might find the limitations of such gear means they feel detached from the process by not being able to have full control over the camera’s settings. Are either of these people wrong? Of course not, these things are personal preferences that have been formed by any number of potential experiences and variables.
Of course, the difference between a point & shoot and a full manual camera is quite significant. The difference between a Leica M6 and Pentax Spotmatic F is less so. In fact, if you compared a Spotmatic F with its TTL metering and 1/1000th maximum shutter speed, the only really significant thing that separates it from a Leica M6 with its TTL metering and 1/1000th maximum shutter speed is the type of camera they are. SLR vs Rangefinder. And as any photographer worth their salt will tell you, the answer to that question is once again entirely subjective.
So maybe my new mate Frank is comparing mechanical reliability? You only need to spend a little bit of time on google to find just as many people who rave about the mechanical quality of either of these cameras as there are people who complain about the opposite. Even if you stripped down a Leica M6 next to a Spotmatic F and asked a group of engineering experts to comment on the quality of the components, I’d bet a lot of money there wouldn’t be unanimous agreement – likely due to all of the varying experiences said group of engineering experts have. Obviously, this is pure speculation, I’m not aware that this specific comparison has ever been made, but if two mechanical objects that are still working perfectly after the sort of years-of-use we are talking about here, it’s fairly safe to assume they were both made to pretty good standards.
So maybe he’s talking about optical quality. A Super Takumar lens vs. (in this case) a Voigtlander. Objectively, I suppose by some measures a comparable Super Tak might well be better than this specific Voigtlander. The Voigtlander in question is known in some circles as not being their finest hour (though personally I share Nigel’s opinion that it’s a cracking bit of glass). But it’s not exactly comparing apples with apples. And besides, he doesn’t mention the lens specifically so he must therefore be claiming that all Super Tak lenses are better than any lens made for Leica M-Mount cameras. That’s a fairly broad stretch objectively speaking, I’d say. But, as soon as it becomes a subjective statement its integrity entirely falls apart. As I talk about in my post about what defines a perfect lens, any lens can be right for the job if it suits the creative goals of the individual phoyotgrapher. In short, when talking subjectively about optics, “better” is a highly flimsy concept.
Don’t be like Frank
So what is Frank talking about? Well of course, like a considerable volume of keyboard-wielding internet-cranks, he’s mistaking his personal preferences for objective facts. He’s taking all of his beliefs about what makes a good camera and lens, and packaging them up into a bundle of irrefutable facts. And in doing so, he’s convincing himself that not only is he right about what he believes, but also that everyone else who doesn’t believe what he believes “don’t know shit”.
So what am I saying; that Frank is wrong…? Of course not, to Frank the Spotmatic F and some Super Takumar lens-of-his-choice probably is the best thing since sliced bread, and for his needs it likely does trounce anything and everything Leica have and will create. I can completely accept that he thinks that, and would never dream of trying to convince him otherwise.
So why, I wonder, does he feel the need to express his views so fervently? Well, your guess is as good as mine – there really is any number of variables and life experiences that can result in an individual becoming so self-assured and blinkered as it seems Frank has become.
But, well, good luck to him I say… I’ve got no real beef with him, and I can’t imagine that Nigel would have been offended by the comment either… Though, if you want my advice – and quite genuinely I don’t mind if you take it or not – I’d suggest you don’t listen people like Frank! His opinion might be as valid as the next man’s, but to be Frank for a second, his apparent attitude and approach to sharing it really sucks!
Thanks to Neil T for letting me use half of his picture of his Pentax Spotmatic F
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Davie Hudson on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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It's Frank ! on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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Be like Frank on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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Mark on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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Nigel Cliff on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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Wildly Insecure on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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I recently sold my “for life” camera, a Leica M6 and bought a Nikon FM3a. Everyone, literally everyone I told about my decision to sell my Leica said it was a crazy decision. The M6 is arguably the high point of one of the best 35mm camera manufacturers, and somehow, some way, I convinced myself that the legendary M6 wasn’t good enough for me. A bit like if I decided that despite my mediocre looks, very average intelligence and ever expanding beer belly, that I can do better than Miranda Kerr.
The slow flash sync speed was a bit of an issue for me. The M6’s top sync speed of 1/60 meant that no flash work would be practical in daylight. And the viewfinder, whilst large and bright, became tiny when I put a 90 or 135mm lens on the camera. Critical focussing on a portrait subject up close when shooting f1.4 lenses wide open is a bit of a crap shoot on a rangefinder. And I didn't want to take it to a lot of places for fear of it being damaged. And the film loading, let's face it, was a bit of a pain in the a$$ compared to most cameras.
Well then I shouldn’t have got a Leica rangefinder then should I? Thats right.
So I chose a camera that was a better fit for me. The M6 is a fantastic camera and I'll always miss that buttery smooth advance, but in the end I sold it and the lenses and purchased a camera and lens collection with less limitations and equivalent quality glass, and had enough cash left over to finance an overseas holiday.
And it fits me better, so I'm happy.
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Terry B on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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All his comment seems to show is he "doesn't know s**t".
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thorsten wulff on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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Sciolist on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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You had to straw man the guy in order to build a polemic (or 'rage piece' as they are called today) against him. Shame. Someone less arrogant might have reflected before attacking and provided an argument we would no doubt all liked to have read and could support. As it is, you are two peas in a pod. Keep arguing about your silly little differences, it fills copy.
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Adam Laws on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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Roger B. on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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Dan Castelli on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
Comment posted: 15/07/2019
Frank, write a review or post a user experience with the Spotmatic F. Publish some photos. If you're that passionate about your camera, show us.
I always felt the Pentax cameras were akin to a fine sports car or an artist's tool, but not designed to withstand the daily pounding that photojournalists gave their equipment. It might hurt us amateurs to hear this, but the Nikon's, Canon's & Leica's were only tools to get the job done.
Let's face it - there is a segment of the population that will always want the best of anything that is offered; there is only one Tom Brady of the NFL, but people will wear his game jersey on NFL Sunday just because they're fans.
Don't worry or lose sleep over an article touting the advantages of a particular camera...if your Spotmatic F makes you happy as a clam in moist sand, then just be content and snap away.
Peter on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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Graham Line on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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But I also own both a Mitsubishi Montero (Pajero) and a VW Golf TDi. Arguing one or the other of those is "best" is equally silly, as long as they do what they are meant to do.
George Appletree on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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Frank the photographer on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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Brian on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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The SMC 50/1.4 I keep on an Argus/Cosina STL1000.
Kodachromeguy on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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Laurence Kesterson on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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Steen on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
Comment posted: 17/07/2019
Back in the mid 70's I had started saving up for my first camera. My father used Asahi Pentax, and had just switched from a Spotmatic to the new KM with the K-mount (obviously). And I was inclined to get an Asahi Pentax K-SLR, too. Then I stumbled upon a test in a Danish photo magazine. The test examined durability and build quality. To that end, the testers took apart the tested SLR cameras to examine the quality of materials, the build, the execution of the technical solutions etc. etc. I remember three of the cameras scrutinised: A Nikon EL, a Leica SL2, and an Asahi Pentax K2.
After that test I had my camera of choice nailed down: I got an Asahi Pentax K2 DMD (after saving a little longer). With regards to lenses the choice suited me fine: tests in other magazines had pointed in the direction of Asahi Pentax as well (consistent color rendition across focal lengths etc.)
I was not disappointed. And despite selling off the wonderful K2 DMD in a fit of insanity along the way - a decision I will regret to my dying day - I still enjoy the wonderful feel of some 40 years K2 cameras along with some other fine Asahi Pentax SLRs and DSLRs
Recently I acquired digital ranger finder (sort of at least): I realised that I might never get my hands on range finder camera of my dreams - A Nikon SP 2005 Limited. But using the digital range finder has taught me something, though: A range finder camera will never be able to replace an SLR/DSLR for me. It's a fine addition to my go to cameras, fun to use in some situations - and deeply frustrating in others ( and I do as a matter of fact mostly work with 35mm equivalent lenses and wide angles, occasionally picking up a nifty fifty or a short tele, which is somewhat compatible with the range finder idea).
All of this said: The Leica M6 is a wonderful camera, the Pentax's, too. We all have our reasons for choosing our tools, and enjoying the tools we use. There's no need to turn childish, rude, or ugly at other peoples choices and preferences - instead, learning that other people see things differently is a thing of beauty and an occasion to behold a richness of experiences. And an invitation to share the joy of creating good photos?
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Brent E. on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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Bill on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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Josef Brugger on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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Andrew Fildes on No, your Pentax Spotmatic F is not better than my Leica M6! / Don’t be like Frank
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2. I own a veteran camera store. So I own several Spottie F's and a few Leica's as well. The best one is the one I have with me.
3. In the bag today, a7R, 1937 Leica III with Summitar 5cm f2, Agfa Clack. All good fun.
4. But some things are special - Leica M3, black Nikon F, Canon 7s with 50/0.95. Those are not about the image. It's the vibe, man.
5. People who KNOW things have a deep and intimate acquaintance with them so I'm very glad that I "don't know shit."