A DIY 35mm Film Stripper

By Tony Warren

I am having a fascinating journey delving into 110 and 16mm subminiature formats with several ups and downs along the way and the accumulation of a surprising number of useful bits and pieces. If you have a look at my profile, all the episodes can be found if you would like to know how I reached this point.

I have also managed to get on top of most problems and learned a great deal into the bargain. The most useful episode for me has been making a device to strip 16mm wide lengths of film from larger formats to allow these intricate little cameras to show what they can do with modern materials and processing. Good as Lomography’s Orca monochrome film is, there are other emulsions that give finer grain and detail, but kodos to them for supporting the revival of the format with their range of films.

4-strip from 120 version.
4-strip from 120 version.

My original 120 film stripper is still the most economic option to feed my re-cycled 110 cartridges and reloadable 16mm cassettes. It allows the stripping to be done in the light with progress visible through the red window to check the frame numbers. Its 6cm width provides three 75-80cm lengths which match 110 length. Its main drawback, such as it is, is the need for some pretty careful handling and a disciplined workflow to keep the coils from tangling up in a heap and mixing up film and backing paper.

Learning from my early experiences I have worked out that, for 120, beginning the stripping just after the film is taped to the backing paper and stopping just after the last frame number has passed in the red window allows both ends of the film to be restrained and held across my work surface for the lengths to be detached individually. This helps because, in the complete darkness necessary, differentiating between backing paper and emulsion is tricky and I once ended up with the backing paper loaded into the cartridge and the film discarded on the floor!

As a result of my experiences with the 120, I began wondering how using 35mm cassettes as a source would work where only a single strip would need to be controlled. This threw up some interesting points.

• A 36 exposure length of 35mm is around 160cm so a film will produce two of the 75-80cm lengths I need for 110 rather than the three from 120. I usually get 18-20 frames in a 110 camera using unperforated film rather than the full 24 but still economic. The 16MG needs 47cm so 3 lengths would be provided like the 120.

• No backing paper is involved to confuse things.

• Looking at my design for the 120 I felt I could modify it for a quite simple 35mm version that wouldn’t require a donor camera body.

• A minus would be that the stripping would have to be done in complete darkness but conversely loading and setting up could be done in the light. I wouldn’t have to gingerly feel for the needle sharp tips of the blades in the dark to check they have penetrated the film.

• After the first length is removed the second strip will remain safely in the cassette ready for producing the next length, later on if it is not needed immediately.

Isometric of new 35mm version.
Isometric of new 35mm version.

The design I came up with is similar in appearance to many of this size I have seen which operate on similar principles, i.e. by pulling the film through the cutters manually. It seems it would suit 3D printing well but I don’t have that capability and the woodworking scrap box provided the raw materials. (If anyone with the necessary skills and equipment wants to try this I will happily provide a drawing file).

I used the same block design to hold the cutting blades but with only two blades rather than four for 120. This would make cutting less hard work into the bargain. The old 12-on 120 camera I used is hard to wind and tends to chew up the type of plastic 120 reels with cruciform slots, the single, cross slot versions work better but is still hard work.

Stripper ready to receive cassette.
Stripper ready to receive cassette.
35mm cassette in place and film attached to film clip. Blades have penetrated the emulsion.
35mm cassette in place and film attached to film clip. Blades have penetrated the emulsion.

This version holds a 35mm cassette at one end under the hinged lid and feeds the film over the cutting blades at the opposite end where the film appears in order to be pulled out to the required length. Setting up and checking that the blades have cut through the film before starting to pull the film through can be done in the light which is reassuring.

Starting to pull the film over the cutting blades.
Starting to pull the film over the cutting blades.
Neatly slit 16mm strip from centre of 35mm film.
Neatly slit 16mm strip from centre of 35mm film.

I attach a weighted processing film clip to give good grip and the weight tends to hold the film in place while I cut the first length off and store it away before putting the light on.

So Adox CMS 20 Pro is the next sharp and very fine grain film to try in the 16 MG.

As mentioned, if anyone wants to make one of these, by whatever process, I am happy to supply a drawing file. Just drop me a message below.

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By Tony Warren
In my 60 or so years of serious involvement in photography I have seen the demise of the viewfinder, the rise of the SLR and the eclipse of them all with the meteoric development of the digital camera. Through it all, however, and above all else, the image is what it is all about so I now use film alongside digital. Whatever is the most appropriate or practical. My contributions will hopefully be useful for anyone interested in using film and also how a died-in-the-wool antique like me is continuing his life-long addiction in the digital age, using both platforms. The major benefit of an extended retirement is that I can spend most of my time nowadays with photography and writing about it.
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Martin on A DIY 35mm Film Stripper

Comment posted: 19/09/2024

Excellently made slicer, Tony! I envy your skills. It was fun to read. I would have to use it in a changing bag. Not sure if that would work.
For those who do not trust their own wood working or DIY skills, much like me, there is a guy in Italy who 3D prints those things. E.g a combined on to cut Minox and 16mm from 1 roll of 35mm film or various formats from 120 film. Their website can be found at camerhack.it .
I don't get any commission or benefits for mentioning his website, just to have said it.
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Tony Warren replied:

Comment posted: 19/09/2024

Thanks Martin. I have seen a few 3D printed versions of this type of thing advertised. I would love to try it if I had the necessary gear but I am too long in the tooth now to be learning new tricks. I think you could use a changing bag. The only thing I would see is measuring the right length, probably by counting how many times you pull a length out of the cassette. My changing bag would let me pull about 20cm at a time so I would need 4 "pulls" for 110 length or just over two for the 16mm MG. A conservator glove would be needed though because you would have to handle the film itself. Are you using subminiature?

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Martin replied:

Comment posted: 19/09/2024

Thanks for the reply, Tony. I also have a changing tent that I intended for LF film holders loading. It's quite spacious and I think I could fit a 50 cm ruler inside so that's measuring out partially solved. Anyway all I need to do is doing, I think. Yes, I use submini, I have a some (many?) 110 cameras, a few Kiev and Minolta 16mm and of course Minox and Minox format cameras. I'm a bit unhappy with 110 film choices. A friend of mine sent me a few rolls of Fuji Superia 200 from Australia a few years ago and I had great results from it but nowadays pics are a lot grainier. Maybe 16mm movie film would be better, I have not tried it yet, but at least it's made for a small frame. Thanks again for your insights. Now I need find some fine grain film. Best wishes, Martin in Austria

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Tony Warren replied:

Comment posted: 19/09/2024

The tent will make things much easier as you say. My changing bag is much more restricted but I have a shower room that can be blacked out fortunately. As to the film issue, if you prefer using colour rather than mono I found Lomography Tiger to be very acceptable for 110. My review is at Minolta Pocket Autopak 460 Tx 110 – A Shooting Experience. With mono tare are several very fine grained film available. Yhe finest I have tried so far is Adox CMS 20 Pro but is very slow and contrasty. I have also tried Rollei APX 25 and Superpan 200 which have given me good results. Shame Kodachrome is no more.

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Martin replied:

Comment posted: 19/09/2024

I just came back from your Autopak/Lomo Color Tiger review. I think I still have some Color Tiger and I should use it up maybe taping the back door window as I had some negative experience with a batch of Orca that showed pinholes in the backing paper. I see that the pics were shot in Dunedin. I have never been to NZL but my Kodak Retina Reflex was for some care by Chris Sherlock. Great colours you got from the Lomo Tiger! Mono would have the advantage of home development, at which I'm not good either, but at least it would be my fault if something goes wrong.

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Tony Warren replied:

Comment posted: 19/09/2024

Taping the back window will cure the "golden orb" pinhole problem and Tiger is a good film worth trying. Mono processing isn't very difficult so it is worth a try if it appeals. I live across town from Chris Sherlock who has been invaluable over the years, being close enough to just drop things off to him. His retirement is a great loss. The guy selling the dual format one would suit you really well if you do take it further. Best of luck.

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Martin replied:

Comment posted: 19/09/2024

I have the Minox slicer and the dual format on, it's exchangabele cutters, kind of a modular system. My camera was one of the last Chris Sherlock did commercially, at least telling from his videos. I am always scared of doing something wrong with home processing, especially when spooling the film. But I did two or three films in the Ars Imago LabBox (Agfa Rondinax clone) with acceptable results. Thanks a good luch to you too!

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Tony Warren replied:

Comment posted: 19/09/2024

The Rondinax is an excellent and near foolproof tank. I use a 120 version for a long time which ingeniously removed the backing paper also. I used it for C41 but changed back to a Johnsons because I needed inversion agitation for monochrome. I suppose my stripper could be interchangeable with different blade holding blocks now you mention it. Regards.

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Martin replied:

Comment posted: 19/09/2024

Sorry, Tony, for the late reply. Somehow I do not noticed of replies. The LabBox uses the same method of paper removel and has a 135 and a 120 modul. For 16mm I need to be better at spooling film into developing spools. Best wishes!

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Tony Warren replied:

Comment posted: 19/09/2024

No problem Martin. I have seen reference to the LabBox - good modern iteration. As for loading 16mm into the spiral, I find it is best to push it in as far as it will go before doing the usual to and fro twisting. The film is pretty stiff at this gauge and won't buckle if you are careful. Regards,

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Gary Smith on A DIY 35mm Film Stripper

Comment posted: 19/09/2024

Having worked in the mechanical CAD s/w industry, I'm always interested when folks show their work. I have to ask: what s/w did you use?

I've probably said this before: I'm glad that all of you DIY'ers do all this stuff but at 70, and with failing eyesight and fumbling manual dexterity I'll leave you to it!

Thanks for sharing Tony!
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Tony Warren replied:

Comment posted: 19/09/2024

Thanks Gary but as you know I have 15 years on you and it just takes a bit longer with a little more waste (this one involved a complete "prototype"). The eyesight thing is overcome with a second pair of glasses on top of the everyday ones, something I have seen a watchmaker do. The software I use is open source Q-CAD. I don't do a lot. I have Microspot Macdraft on my G4 which I used for a long time in my architectural work, from back in the '90s in fact. The stuff you will be used to will be be much more sophisticated.

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Gary Smith replied:

Comment posted: 19/09/2024

Unfortunately my left retina was damaged by a stroke in 2021 so extra glasses don't really fix much for me.

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Tony Warren replied:

Comment posted: 19/09/2024

Oh, very sorry to hear that Gary. But your photography will be a lifesaver I'm sure as it is for me.

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Karen McBride on A DIY 35mm Film Stripper

Comment posted: 20/09/2024

That’s a great little setup. Well done.
I would love a copy of your design drawing.
Thanks
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Tony Warren replied:

Comment posted: 20/09/2024

Thanks Karen - emailing the drawing.

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Alexander Seidler on A DIY 35mm Film Stripper

Comment posted: 20/09/2024

Very cool tool
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Tony Warren replied:

Comment posted: 20/09/2024

Thanks Alexander.

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Lance Rowley on A DIY 35mm Film Stripper

Comment posted: 21/09/2024

Tony I love reading all of your articles on your adventures with 110 and subminiature. One of these days I might have to look into cutting my own film down as you so. It’s really inspiring stuff and I love the creativity!
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Tony Warren replied:

Comment posted: 21/09/2024

Thank you Lance, glad you enjoyed them. It has kept me sane and reasonably active since I turned 80 and continues to do so. I had no idea the format had been developed so widely and to effect. It continues to surprise me. All the best.

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