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Adventures in C-Mount Macro Land

By Dave Powell

C-mount lenses are the tiny optical jewels worn on the fronts of classic 16mm movie cameras. Their minuscule 17.526mm separation between the camera’s mounting flange and film plane makes them largely unsuitable to adapt to (D)SLRs. But many mirrorless cameras have nearly identical specs. Searching 35MMC and the wider web, you’ll discover that Micro Four Thirds, Nikon 1 and Pentax Q cameras can rather easily attain infinity focus through adapted C-mount lenses.

This wouldn’t work as well, though, with my Fuji X-Pro1. Yes, its “flange” distance– 17.7mm– is nearly the same as that for C-mounts. And to preserve their infinity focus on the X-Pro1, I could simply buy (or improvise) a C-to-X adapter disc that insets the lens just under 0.2mm into the camera body.

But when mounted that way, the lens would project circular images about 10mm in diameter onto the sensor (since the normal 16mm movie frame is only 10.26×7.49mm in size). This would cover only part of the 23.6×15.6mm sensor. Yes, I could crop the images down to smaller rectangles, but I wanted to take advantage of all the X-Pro’s 16 megapixels.

And it turned out I could… with lovely results and one quite intriguing application. But to do so simply (without adding extra optical elements), I’d be limited to shooting macros.

Big Close-Ups from Tiny Lenses

The simplest way to cover the X-Pro1’s sensor was to mount the lens further from the camera body than its specified flange distance. The light cone exiting the rear of the lens would then travel farther (and expand more) before reaching the sensor. Of course, infinity focus would be lost, but macro focus would be gained.

So I finally gave it a go by screwing yard-sale C-mount glass into a C-to-T-mount adapter disc, screwing them into a T-to-X adapter tube, and then mounting the combo on the camera (as shown in the opening photo). It looks comical, but works! And the two lenses I tested were the:

  • Kern-Paillard Switar AR 25mm f/1.4, designed for high-spec Swiss Bolex cameras (this lens is mounted on the X-Pro1 in the opening photo) and
  • Bausch & Lomb 25mm f/2.7 Animar Balcote, often found on mid-century consumer cine cams like the Keystone and Revere (this lens is standing in the lower-right corner of the opening photo)

Flowers in the Wind

In the first of four experiments, I took the X-Pro1+Switar combo out to hand-hold some interior landscapes of rhododendron flowers that had just burst into bloom on a sunny, windy day.

Crazy? Yes. But not totally nuts. The X-Pro1 excels at producing low-light/high-ISO images with minimal digital noise. This allowed me to compensate for hand-holding in the wind by shooting at 1/500 sec, f/4 and ISO 1,600. And as much as possible, I used focus peaking to try for the sharpest results.

Out-of-camera, the photos were dark. But I didn’t need to lighten them. Just re-spreading their RGB histograms across the full range of possible tones with an image editor’s Levels command took care of that. (This was also my only post-processing step for this article’s photos. None were enhanced or cropped.)

My first (and very lucky) shot caught a blossom’s sun-kissed pistil in decent focus. I was happy to see that the image covered the whole sensor without vignetting. And note the great colors and silky out-of-focus backgrounds. This is one sweet lens!:

Flower macroIn the petals below, the sharpest focus is around the brown spot near bottom-center:

Flower macroHere, the sharpest focus is just to the lower-left of center (C-mount macro depth-of-field is quite shallow):

Flower macroAnd another lucky grab… of a fairly sharp stamen:

Flower macroDown to the Sea in the Ocean Diamond

So what’s with this article’s weird opening tableau? The little plastic ship model is actually a USB memory stick disguised as the arctic expedition ship we took on this adventure. And the stones to its right are pieces of Icelandic lava.

For this second experiment, I switched to the Bausch & Lomb lens and under fluorescent desk-lamp illumination, pretended the camera was a drone capturing ship details. Under this dimmer lighting, I shot hand-held at 1/500 sec, f/4 and ISO 6,400.

This first shot (of the “Screech” rum nip in the opening photo) has nothing to do with that Icelandic adventure. I just liked it in the scene:

Screech Rum bottle macroMoving on to the Ocean Diamond model, the letters “OCEAN D” across its hull just filled the sensor’s 23.6mm width. But on the model itself, they spanned 12mm. So the lens produced a nearly 2x magnification. (The Switar lens… also a 25mm optic… did the same.):

Ship model macroThe next two photos offer dramatic fly-bys of the ship’s three radar domes (note the impressive workmanship of the model’s moulding… NOT):

Ship model macroShip model macroOf course, every ship needs lifeboats:

Ship model macroPlus a prominent stack logo (with slight ISO-6,400 chroma noise creeping into the white areas in this dim shot):

Ship model macroAnd finally, an outdoor pool deck, seemingly cloaked in cold Arctic fog:

Ship model macro

Marbleous Micro Worlds

I felt that the Bausch & Lomb lens didn’t really get to strut its stuff under that dim desk-lamp sun. So in experiment three, I shot hand-held macros of marbles lit by a light table below and a floor lamp above. NOTE: These were all shot at 1/15 sec, f/8 and ISO 400… with the camera stabilized on a bean-bag “monopod”:

C-mount macro marble shot C-mount macro marble shotC-mount macro marble shotC-mount macro marble shotC-mount macro marble shotC-mount macro marble shotC-mount macro marble shotC-mount macro marble shot

Like another world! The Bausch & Lomb Animar Balcote really strutted its stuff there.

And the last image especially intrigues me! It features the smallest of my marbles (at only 9mm wide, it’s dwarfed by the common “small” shooter to its left above). And its yellow inclusion looks shockingly like a trapped sea creature with butterfly wings and a sea-horse’s or dragonfly’s segmented tail! Quite odd. (I’ll see what more views reveal, and add a comment below if it proves interesting.)

But for now, I’ll stop here because my fourth experiment could be the most interesting and useful of all. As a teaser, let me just say that anyone who shoots “subminiature” 16mm or 110 film won’t want to miss the next part: “Adventures in C-Mount 110-film Scanning”!

–Dave Powell is a Westford, Mass. writer and avid amateur photographer.

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By Dave Powell
Trained in mathematics, physics, cosmology, computer programming and science journalism. Retired mathematician, award-winning technical and journalistic writer. Past winner of an international business-journalism equivalent of the Pulitzer Prize. And past author and editorial advisor for Sesame Street... where I regularly worked with Jim Henson and Kermit!
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Bill Brown on Adventures in C-Mount Macro Land

Comment posted: 24/07/2024

Dave, The macro world can be intriguing and beautiful. I just wonder when I parted company with my set of marbles and steelies. I had some beautiful shooters. I can still 'see' us in the alley beside my friend David's house as we went at it. I won as I recall. One of the many analog games that occupied a fourth grader over the summer of 1964.
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Dave Powell replied:

Comment posted: 24/07/2024

A nice story, Bill. As you can see from the photos, my old marbles got a bit of a beating! I only still have one "small" steelie, a few of the larger Akro-Agate-style marbles, and a ton of the normal Cat's Eyes. When I was busily bashing them around on the ground, I didn't completely appreciate the little works-of-art that they were. And like the last one in the article, when examined closely, they can still contain surprises. Did you ever have any "sulphides"? I wish I had and kept them. Not very colorful... but interesting, and collectible now!

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Gary Smith on Adventures in C-Mount Macro Land

Comment posted: 24/07/2024

Great macro shots Dave! I'm glad that you enjoy fiddling with old lenses and re-mounting them. It seems like a way to expand your photography.
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Dave Powell replied:

Comment posted: 24/07/2024

Thanks so much Gary! And it was a surprising expansion too. I'm having more fun than expected with those little lenses.

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Gary on Adventures in C-Mount Macro Land

Comment posted: 24/07/2024

Very enjoyable article and images. Marbles--who knew? (Where can you even get marbles these days?)
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Dave Powell replied:

Comment posted: 24/07/2024

Appreciate it Gary. And a very good question! Other than online (or saved from one's childhood), they might be hard to find now. Thanks again!

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Gary Smith replied:

Comment posted: 24/07/2024

Our local BATTERIES + sells small bags of cat's eye marbles. I don't know how you'd get "puries" but of course, "steelies" are just ball bearings and they never went out of style. I think getting "jumbos" or "peewees" would be hard.

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Dave Powell replied:

Comment posted: 24/07/2024

You got me thinking now, Gary! "BATTERIES +"... Really? We have one in the area, and I'll have to take a look. Dollar stores and craft stores could be other sources. And I've seen bags of clear marbles (if desired) at hardware stores and garden centers. Why? Because florists and decorators (among others) use them instead of what used to be called "flower frogs" to keep flower stems from shifting around in vases. Marbles seem to have drawn attention...and I may have to devote a piece to macros of some of my odder ones!

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Gary Smith replied:

Comment posted: 24/07/2024

They also have the thin balsa wood airplanes that used to cost a dime when we were kids. When you think of it: it's hard to understand how a store selling only batteries can survive.

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Dave Powell replied:

Comment posted: 24/07/2024

Wow Gary... I'd forgotten about those. How could I DO that? I just called up the websites of two nearby BATTERIES+ stores, scanned their lists of product categories, and found nothing remotely like toys. The only non-electrical items I saw were "Pet Items" (leashes and collapsible bowls) and "Wiper blades." I did notice that they are franchises, which means that owners may be able to enhance their offerings in unique ways. It reminds me of the days when local "Tandy" franchises were becoming "Radio Shack." For a brief time, they continued to sell Tandy's earliest leather-crafting supplies plus Japanese robotic toys. And then Tandy computers. And finally, mobile phones and electronic supplies.

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Marcus Gunaratnam on Adventures in C-Mount Macro Land

Comment posted: 24/07/2024

Mouth Watering Macros,a novel way to use C Mount lenses.
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Dave Powell replied:

Comment posted: 24/07/2024

LOVE your turn of phrase, Marcus! They are a little luscious, aren't they? The 110 negative scans in my next article are also surprisingly good... thanks to those tiny lenses! Dave

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Jeffery Luhn on Adventures in C-Mount Macro Land

Comment posted: 26/07/2024

Dave,

Loved the photos of the marbles!!!

I really enjoyed reading about your use of the C-mount lenses. In my first couple of years in the Laney (Oakland, Ca) photo program we shot lots of assignments with winder Bolex cameras with 3-lens turrets. Made in the pre-zoom era! When the focus was on, the images were razor sharp!!! It's so cool to see great lenses like that put back in action!!! As far as the marbles go... well that was an era, wasn't it? Endless hours kneeling on the dirt!!! Lastly: I renovated a four-unit apt building in San Francisco and while tearing out some plaster walls, I found a time capsule and many items left by what I think must have been the builders kids. Built in 1905, the year before the big quake. A very cool item: a bag of well scuffed marbles MADE OUT OF MARBLE! Handmade, by the look of them. Not perfect spheres. I think they were Italian, because the contractor and owner were Italian. I took them to the DeYoung museum and they were very excited to accept them. Playing marbles was a Roman past time. Jeffery
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Dave Powell replied:

Comment posted: 26/07/2024

Thanks so much, Jeffery... and what a story you tell!!! Your wall find may well explain where the modern term "marbles" came from. Though Asia and Europe played with marble-like spheres for many centuries, the first recorded use of "marbles" as a game apparently occurred in 1709. And to my mind, that well might have originated because Italian quarry workers turned scraps of Carrara home with them at night to turn into game pieces. Something similar also took place with modern glass marbles. At the end of their workdays, people in a variety of glass arts would turn scraps from the day's production into unusual, one-of-a-kind marbles for their children. And today, these End-of-Day (EOD) marbles are quite collectible. My dad had a Bolex camera just like yours... and I certainly wish I had those lenses now! Again thanks so much Jeffrey... Very interesting!

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Paul Quellin on Adventures in C-Mount Macro Land

Comment posted: 26/07/2024

Fascinating Dave and the marble shots are fabulous. I really want to get going properly with mounting old lenses on modern digital, so far I've just been doing it the other way around with Canon EOS bodies. This is inspiring.
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Dave Powell replied:

Comment posted: 26/07/2024

Wonderful Paul... and an interesting point of view. Come to think of it, I might have similarly tried to mount new lenses on my Nikon FE. But due to the SLR's huge "Flange Distance," I often would have needed adapters with extra glass elements. (The only exception to that would have been-- as far as I know-- T-mount lenses.) But you were able to adapt all sorts of lenses to the EOS, due to its shorter distance! But returning the "other way," there are all sorts of ways to adapt older lenses to newer digitals... and this has been only one of 'em!

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