Moscow 4 Camera

A Full Roll of Flowing Water with a Moscow 4

By Richard Becker

My success rate with the Moskva (Moscow) 4 camera I bought a year or so ago has not been good. Until recently only a few times have I managed to get even half a roll of useable negatives and that is before looking at the composition. It is amazing how many things can go wrong with just 8 frames, focus out, wrong exposure, shutter failing to trip, missing the markers on the backing paper and then overlapping exposures, and the main one; camera shake. Sometimes all these and more on the same roll of film, even on the same frame. And all that before the developing goes wrong.

While I am still struggling with the failures associated with general user incompetence I have gradually managed to overcome most of the camera shake problem. A frequent issue it appears with Moskva folders and presumably the 9X6 Zeiss Super Ikontas on which the Moskva cameras are based as well, though I have yet to see it mentioned with the latter.

The camera does not sit well on a tripod, but cannot be used without one. There are two places to attach to the tripod head. The one on the body is too far away from the centre of gravity and in typical Zeiss fashion the mount protrudes from the camera base, so with nothing to modify the attachment the camera is very unstable and rocks a lot. The mount on the door is at the centre of gravity and flat but in a restricted space, none of the tripod heads I have will fit without fouling on the camera somewhere.

To make it more difficult pressing the shutter button with a finger or using a remote release requires a lot of effort, so even a cable release makes the camera move which rather defeats the point of using one in the first place. Unlike other similar cameras there is no place to attach a cable release directly onto the shutter which would have solved that part of the problem.

Moscow 4 CameraSo to begin with I made a simple bracket to hold the camera on the tripod using a piece of aluminium channel from a greenhouse frame which both moves the centre of gravity to over the middle of the tripod head and also supports the camera either side of the protruding body mount.

And now I trigger the shutter with an air release so there is very little pushing on the shutter release button that is physically connected to my hand.

Moscow 4 CameraAnd then I use slow film. I have always found it is exposure times in the 1/30th second to 1 second range that give the most trouble with camera shake. Too long to freeze any camera movement and not long enough for any movement in the first part of the exposure to be insignificant and not show on the image. So to reduce the effects on the image of any movement that does occur I use the slowest film available and make long exposures. Rollei RPX25 fits that criteria well and it’s high contrast on dull days give results that appeal to me at least.

On a dull and windy June day with the sky heavily overcast and rain in the air I took the camera and followed the stream down to the river taking photos as I went and trying different compositions. When later I developed the film I found for the first time since I started using the camera I could choose which images I preferred from the whole roll.

The first two frames are of a stream in what I call a Ghyll (or Gill with a hard ‘G’) but is called a Dingle in the borderlands of Wales and the Marches; a steep-sided wooded stream valley or ravine. In digital colour photos I took of the same scene everything in this image is green, indeed it is in all these photos as even most of the rocks are covered in moss and the water was reflecting the vegetation. In summer with the leaves on the trees the stream here receives no direct sunlight at all, and only rarely in winter does it reach into the ravine at all.

Black and white image of a stream in a wooded ravine.
Frame 1. 25-30 seconds at f/16.

Frames 1 and 2 are almost the same, so to make it harder to compare them I have put the second at the end of this article. Having composed the image and triggered the shutter for frame 1 I forgot to start counting the seconds. My (roughly) calculated exposure for the light meter reading plus reciprocity failure had given me a figure of around 25 to 30 seconds as a reasonable time. Realising I had no idea how long the shutter had been open I guessed, closed the shutter then repeated, this time starting counting from the beginning. Despite this the first is slightly better exposed than the second where some of the ‘highlights’ have started to become too bright.

A short distance downhill the stream leaves the ghyll and flows between fields until it reaches the river. Here it is partly open to the sky, giving me shorter exposures and increase contrast across the image even on this really dull day.

Black and white image of a stream flowing.
Frame 3. 6-8 seconds at f/16.
Black and white image of a stream flowing.
Frame 4. 6-8 seconds at f/16.

For the second half of the film I went to the bank of the river, known here as the Afon Hafren which becomes the River Severn downstream in England. Here the trees have a closed canopy again and were not sheltered from the breeze that was blowing. I tried variations on the composition while hoping I would get at least one good negative.

Black and white image of a river flowing.
Frame 5. 10-12 seconds at f/16.
Black and white image of a river flowing.
Frame 6. 10-12 seconds at f/16.
Black and white image of a river flowing.
Frame 7. 10-12 seconds at f/16.
Black and white image of a river flowing.
Frame 8. 10-12 seconds at f/16.
Black and white image of a stream in a wooded ravine.
Frame 2. 25-30 seconds at f/16.

Overall I have been pleased with the camera, when I get everything right it takes very large highly detailed negatives and the Industar 23 lens is sharp from corner to corner with very little distortion.

Development was with Fomadon R09 (Rodinal) 1+50 for 11 minutes.

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By Richard Becker
Farmer, photographer and naturalist. Living in Wales. Website; www.richardbeckerphotography.co.uk
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Jeffery Luhn on A Full Roll of Flowing Water with a Moscow 4

Comment posted: 28/09/2024

Richard,
Your results look very good to me! I know what you've gone through because I have two 6x9 Mockva cameras with similar 'personalities!'

One thing they got right was the glass. Mine have clean sharp lenses too. These are not cameras for any kind of moving subject, like kids or sports, but the way you're using them can be rewarding. I really liked your compositions and full scale tones. Beautiful! I have bit the bullet and bought a mint Zeiss 6x9, which can be shot handheld. Will I ever use the Mockva again? Absolutely! It has a certain mojo.
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Richard Becker replied:

Comment posted: 28/09/2024

Hi Jeffrey Thank you, yes you have to work with their idiosyncrasies, point and shoot can hardly be further away. The lens is as good or better than any other I have used in any format, some say the Soviet lenses are better than the Zeiss originals. The Moment (Compur) shutter is pretty good as well, the build quality of the rest could have been better. I have a pre-war 6x6 Super-Ikonta which I can sometimes use handheld. Post-war Zeiss 6x9 Super-Ikontas with coated lenses seem almost mythological, I know they exist, Camera-Wiki says they do so they must.

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Jeffery Luhn replied:

Comment posted: 28/09/2024

Richard, The Mockva lenses are indeed sharp, especially in the center, but in my experience, the Zeiss Ikonta cameras are sharper. Since they often have the same lens formulas, I assume the Zeiss superiority is due to better raw materials and better quality control. That being said, I did do a lens test by photographing a resolution chart and the differences were not major. As far as finding and buying Zeiss cameras: Yes, they have increased in price, but the demand has also helped to make more of them bubble up to the surface. Many are refurbished. I own three Ikonta cameras (6x6x, 6x7, 6x9) one Mamiya 6, and a lovely Zeiss Contessa 35mm. SHARP, SHARP, SHARP! I got most of them recently and they cost much less than when they were new, when you calculate the adjustment for inflation. They are still a bargain!!!

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Gary Smith on A Full Roll of Flowing Water with a Moscow 4

Comment posted: 28/09/2024

I've never tangled with any of the Russian cameras. I've had good results with my 6 x6 Voigtländer Perkeo II folder. I've never used it on a tripod or with a remote release (unlike my Mamiya 645 that is really too heavy for me to use without a tripod or release). The folder has the added advantage of fitting in a pocket!

Your included examples are great! Thanks for the article.
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Richard Becker replied:

Comment posted: 28/09/2024

Hi Gary Thank you. It will and does slide into a pocket, you don't forget it is there. Everything is against it for hand holding, 11cm lens, top shutter speed of 1/250. It is a horizontal folder with a left-hand shutter button, so with nowhere to support the front of the camera, look through the viewfinder and take a picture all at the same time, especially in the horizontal. It is quite hard enough using the rangefinder off a tripod, you look through the viewfinder while trying to support the camera and turn the focusing wheel (under the rangefinder prism in th heading photo). Presumably Soviet photographers of the 50's were made differently, having 3 arms perhaps.

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Bill Brown on A Full Roll of Flowing Water with a Moscow 4

Comment posted: 29/09/2024

For all the effort you got some beautiful frames here. Hard for me to pick but I think frame 3 and 6 are my favorites. Frame 3 almost looks like flowing mercury and Frame 6 creates the feel of an enchanted forest. Printed on Epson Legacy Fiber Rag these would be gorgeous prints.
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Richard Becker replied:

Comment posted: 29/09/2024

Thank you Bill. I have been trying some prints, currently 4 & 8 are my favourites, it's very subjective. Ideally they would be on something like Ilford Cotton Rag, but complete lack of a darkroom and a suitable enlarger make that unlikely.

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Russ Rosener on A Full Roll of Flowing Water with a Moscow 4

Comment posted: 29/09/2024

I had a Moskva 5 camera for a short time. Used it mostly on a tripod. The spring which triggers the shutter seems to be quite strong and not very supple. As you noted hand holding this beast is a recipe for frustration. Nonetheless the lens and negative size make it worth the effort on a tripod. I admire that you stuck with it and problem solved.The Rollei RPX 25 is an amazing film. I have several rolls in 120 I need to start shooting. You superb and evocative images bring to life the magic of nature's secrets. Available to all who will take the time to unlock them.
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Richard Becker replied:

Comment posted: 29/09/2024

Hi Ross Thank you, cameras like these make you slow down and reflect on what you are looking at: Compose the image, check focus, check exposure, look again, check again, then finally trip the shutter, wind on then repeat. RPX25 negatives look so good that it seems almost a shame to reverse them.

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